Year of birth of the first generation ancestor
- wongkwing
- 2021年4月13日
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According to the information of the first generation ancestor, study the birth year of the first generation ancestors.
Three sources of information about first generation ancestor.
Source 1: From the internet website (族脉网)

Obtained from the website (族脉网), the family genealogy of "Nine Guan Gong Jun Zi Zhijin Faction" (九管公讳俊字知进派系) published by Wong Weihui (黄伟辉) of Guangdong Province on September 3, 2012.
Our ancestor Zhijingong (知进公) was born in Yidulu (益都路), Qingzhou Prefecture (青州市), Shandong Province (山东省). He was born in the first year of Shaoding (绍定) in the Song Dynasty 1228. He was granted the title of regular metropolitan graduates (进士出身), was promoted to grand master for palace counsel (中议大夫), was called to Guangdong (粤), and was awarded the title of "nine guan" generals (九管将军), which lasted nine years (1280). In the 19th year of Emperor Kublai Kan (至元) in the Yuan Dynasty (1282) moved his family to Guangdong (广东) "Huayuan Lane" (花园巷), Xinhui County (新会县城).
Yidulu (益都路): The name of an administrative district (行政区名) in the Yuan Dynasty. In 1226 of Yuan Dynasty, "Yidufu" (益都府) was changed to "Yidulu" (益都路). In 1368 in Ming Dynasty, "Yidulu" (益都路) was changed to "Yidufu" (益都府). "Yidulu" (益都路) has existed for 142 years. Today is called Qingzhou City (青州市), Shandong Province (山东省).
Source 2: Records from Hong Kong

This is a record made by Hong Kong Wong Runming (黄润明). The information on the 1st generation ancestor is roughly similar to the internet website (族脉网), and the information on the 1st generation ancestor’s wife and son is added. It also added the year of the death of the 1st generation ancestor in the 2nd year of the Yuanhuangqing (元皇庆) 1313.
The 2nd generation ancestor Wong Xiong (黄雄) went to Guangdong (广东) as an envoy (广都使司) 1267, awarded gentleman for meritorious achievement (迪功郎), and promoted to gentleman for summoning (徴仕郎). The 5th year of Emperor Dade (大德) in the Yuan Dynasty (1301) bought several lands in Yin Village (银村), Tianhe (天河乡), Tangxia Town (棠下镇), Xinhui County (新会县). Also bought land in Xiao Jiaowei Lychee Village (小滘尾荔枝庄).
Source 3: The six-generation ancestors portrait scroll from Wong Clan Main Ancestral Hall (黄氏太祖祠)

The six-generation ancestors portrait scroll (六代世系祖先图轴) from Wong Clan Main Ancestral Hall (黄氏太祖祠) was created by copying the ancestors portrait scroll of Qiao Meifang Shizang (乔美房世). The 15th generation ancestor Wong Xin Cheong (黄显章) in the year of Geng Shen (庚申) 1800 write a preface for this ancestor portrait scroll.
The 1st generation ancestor, given name (名): Jun (俊), courtesy name (字): Zhijin (知进).
Granted the title of regular metropolitan graduates (进士出身), Grand master for palace counsel (中议大夫), was called to Guangdong (粤), and was awarded the title of "nine guan" generals (九管将军).

The 2nd generation ancestor, given name (名): Xiong (雄), courtesy name (字): Chensun (陈孙).
Awarded gentleman for meritorious achievement (迪功郎), and promoted to gentleman for summoning (徴仕郎).

The figure above was drawn based on the informstion from the three sources of 1st generation ancestor. On the left of the figure is the year, the beginning and end of the dynasty (Jin, Southern Song, Yuan, Ming) and official titles. On the right of the figure are the records of the 1st generation ancestor and the 2nd generation ancestor obtained from source 1 and source 2.
Analyze the year of birth of the 1st generation ancestor from the official title (官职名称):
The official title for the 1st generation ancestor:
All the three sources recorded the 1st generation ancestor was Granted the title of regular metropolitan graduates (进士出身), Grand master for palace counsel (中议大夫), was called to Guangdong (奉诏镇粤), and was awarded the title of "nine guan" generals (九管将军).
Here is the explanation:
进士: metropolitan graduate
First rank (⼀甲): granted the title of metropolitan graduate with honours (进士及第).
Second rank (二甲): granted the title of regular metropolitan graduates (进士出身).
Third rank (三甲): granted the title of associate metropolitan graduates (同进士出身).
中议大夫: grand master for palace counsel (honorary civil official).
In the Jin Dynasty, it is a upper fifth grade (正五品) civil official.
In the Yuan and Ming Dynasty, it is a is upper fourth grade (正四品) civil official.
In the Qing Dynasty, it is a lower third rank (从三品) civil official.
There in no official name of 中议大夫 in the Song Dynasty.
奉诏镇粤: accept the emperor’s order to guard Guangdong (广东)
九营将军:No information yet.
The official title for the 2nd generation ancestor:
Information of the second generation ancestor went to Guangdong (广东) as an envoy "Guangdu Shisi" (广都使司), awarded gentleman for meritorious achievement (迪功郎), and promoted to gentleman for summoning (徴仕郎).
Here is the explanation:
广都使司: Military rank during the Ming and Qing Dynasty. "都司" began in the Ming Dynasty. The term "都司" was originally an abbreviation for the capital commander, and later it was also used as an abbreviation for military officials.
迪功郎:gentleman for meritorious achievement (honorary), it started in Song Dynasty, it is a lower ninth grade (从九品) civil official. Abolished in Jin, Yuan and Qing Dynasties. Ming Dynasty, it is an upper eighth grade (正八品) civil official.
徵事郎:gentleman for summoning (honorary), in the Tang Dynasty, it is an upper eighth grade (正八品) civil official, and was abolished in the Song Dynasty. In the Jin Dynasty, It is a lower eighth grade (从八品) civil official. In the Yuan Dynasty, it is a lower seven grade (从七品) civil official. In the Ming and Qing Dynasty, it was renamed to 徵仕郎, it is a lower seventh grade (从七品) civil official.
According to the information of the 2nd generation ancestor: Guangdu Shisi (广都使司), gentleman for meritorious achievement (迪功郎), and gentleman for summoning (徽仕郎) are official titles in the Ming Dynasty, and the 2nd generation ancestor is more likely to be from the Ming Dynasty.
The official title of the 1st generation ancestor was grand master for palace counsel (中议大夫), and the official title of grand master for palace counsel (中议大夫) was only used in the Jin Dynasty (1115-1234), Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368) and Ming Dynasty (1368-1644).
It is less likely the 1st generation ancestor belong to the Jin Dynasty, because the Jin Dynasty perished in 1234 and the Ming Dynasty began in 1368, 134 years apart. If the 2nd generation ancestor were from the Ming Dynasty, the age of father and son would be too far apart. The 1st generation ancestor may be from the late Yuan or Ming Dynasty.
Analyze the year of birth of the 1st generation ancestor from historical events:
The 1st generation ancestor moved to the south before the 1279 Battle of Yamen (崖门海战) in the late Southern Song Dynasty. He was called to Guangdong (粤) in 1271, the Southern Song Dynasty perished in 1279, and was resigned (解组) in the following year 1280.
It was also when the Zhujixiang (珠玑巷) villagers southward migration from the second year of Xianchun (咸淳) 1266 to the ninth year of Xianchun (咸淳) 1273, Nanxiong Zhujixiang (南雄珠玑古巷) Luogui (罗贵) 97 families moved south.
The 1st generation ancestors were from Yidulu (益都路), and Yidulu (益都路) was the name of an administrative district (行政区名) in the Yuan Dynasty. In 1226 of Yuan Dynasty, "Yidufu" (益都府) was changed to "Yidulu" (益都路). In 1368 in Ming Dynasty, "Yidulu" (益都路) was changed to "Yidufu" (益都府). "Yidulu" (益都路) has existed for 142 years. 1226 to 1368 was also the time when the 1st generation ancestor was born in 1228.
Historical records of migration in the Ming Dynasty, during the Hongwu (洪武) period of the Ming Dynasty, the population migrated into Shandong (山东) during the period of Zhu Yuanzhang (朱元璋). It is unlikely that the 1st generation ancestor moved south from the Shantou (山东) to Guangdong (广东) in the Ming Dynasty.
If the year of birth of the 1st generation ancestor is the Southern Song Dynasty, the official titles of both the 1st generation ancestor and the 2nd generation ancestor does not match the Southern Song dynasty, and it is suspected to be wrong.
Analyze the year of birth of the 1st generation ancestor from the historical documents:
There are no documents about the records of the 1st generation ancestor and the 2nd generation ancestor. Have searched "Xinhui County Chronicles" (新会县志) , "Guangdong Chronicles" (廣東通志), "Qingzhou Prefecture Chronicles" (青州府志), "Shandong Chronicles" (山东通志), "Yidu County Chronicles" (益都县图志), "Ming and Qing metropolitan graduates Records" (明清进士题名碑录索引), "Ming Dynasty Official Chronology" (明代职官年表) , "The Records of metropolitan graduates in the Song Dynasty" (宋代登科总录) and other documents, there is no record.
The records of "Ming and Qing metropolitan graduates Records" (明清进士题名) are relatively complete. There is no record found on the 1st generation ancestor. The possibility of the 1st generation ancestor being a metropolitan graduate "Jinshi" (进士) in the Ming Dynasty is low.
The 1st generation ancestor was born in 1228, and the Jin Dynasty perished in 1234 when he was 6 years old. The first imperial examination in the Yuan Dynasty was held in 1315, the year of the death of the 1st generation ancestor in the second year of YuanHuangqing (元皇庆) 1313. The 1st generation ancestor can only take the Imperial Examination of the Southern Song Dynasty. The records of metropolitan graduate "Jinshi" in the Southern Song Dynasty are relatively incomplete, and records of the 1st generation ancestor have not yet been found.
Estimate the year of birth of the 1st generation ancestor from the number of year per one generation:

The vertical axis is the year, and the horizontal axis is the generation of the ancestors.
In 1234, the Jin Dynasty perished.
In 1279, the Southern Song Dynasty perished.
In 1368, the Yuan Dynasty perished and the Ming Dynasty began.
In 1636, the Ming Dynasty perished and the Qing Dynasty began.
There are records of the year of birth of the 15th - 20th generation ancestors (purple dots), and the average birth of the first son age is calculated to be 36.5 years. Taking 36.5 years as one generation, it is estimated that the year of birth of the 1st ancestor is 1233 (blue line). If the 30 years is considered as one generation, the year of birth of of the 1st ancestor is estimated to be 1324 (red line). If the 40 years as one generation, the year of birth of of the 1st ancestor is estimated to be 1188 (green line).
1188 belong to Jin Dynasty (1115-1234) & Southern Song Dynasty (1127-1279)
1233 belong to Jin Dynasty (1115-1234), Southern Song Dynasty (1127-1279) and Yuan Dynasty (1206-1368)
1324 belong to Yuan Dynasty (1206-1368)
Source 1 and Source 2 record the birth year of the 1st generation ancestor in the first year of Shaoding (绍定元年) of the Song Dynasty 1228, It is relatively close to the year 1233 in the estimation (based on the average birth of the first son age is 36.5 years, blue line). If the 1st generation ancestor were born in 1228, then he belong to the Jin Dynasty, Southern Song Dynasty or Yuan Dynasty are determined by the place of birth.
Some documents were found with name of Huang Jun’s (黄俊) records, none of which was the 1st generation ancestor.

"Guangzhou Prefecture Chronicles Guangxu Volume 50 Promotion and examination List 19" (广州府志 光绪 卷五十 选举表十九) Wong Jun (黄俊), a native of Nanhai (南海), late Song Dynasty.

"Xinghua Prefecture Putian County Chronicles Volume 13 Promotion and examination List"(兴化府莆田县志 卷十三 选举) Wong Jun (黄雋) (same as "隽", same as "俊") from Xinghua (兴化) in the early Ming Dynasty.